May I Finish?

February 15, 2006

My husband, who is Japanese-American, once commented that the Japanese spoken by women is so different from that spoken by men, it’s as if Japanese is really two different languages. I asked my mother-in-law about it, and her comment was succinct: “Ladies must be very polite.”

This comes to mind because I’m thinking about a phenomenon that’s familiar to many (if not most) women: being interrupted while speaking. I was interrupted — ignored, really — during a meeting yesterday. I was asked to do a bit of essential writing (informing our brave friends who downloaded 0.4.10 that they must throw away their profiles before downloading 0.6). I needed to figure out where this tidbit should be put — in the Release Notes, on the website, or both — and I said, “I need more information…” One of the engineers began talking about something else, and my query was left twisting in the wind.

I suppose I could have objected, and on another day I might have. But I was tired, and wishing for coffee, and so angry over being ignored that I simply left the room. (And went out for coffee.)

Sociologists have been researching male/female conversation patterns for a few decades. And there’s pretty good evidence that men interrupt women a lot.

In fact, men often interrupt outright, and they do this far more frequently than women do, several studies have shown. Candace West and Don Zimmerman, sociologists at the University of California, recorded a number of two-party conversations. When men spoke with men or women with women, there were relatively few interruptions, and those that did occur were balanced between the two speakers. When men conversed with women, however, not only did more interruptions occur, but 96 percent of them involved men interrupting women.

Psychology Today: Girl talk, guy talk: do men and women really have distinctive conversational styles?

But what can be done about it? Stomping out of the room and going for coffee is not really a solution. Legislation won’t help.

Should I interrupt more? Talk louder? Frankly, I don’t want to do that. I WANNA BE ME! And I’m a person who listens to others, and takes turns, and doesn’t shout. Which isn’t to say I’m not assertive and persistent — my co-workers can attest that I am both of those.

Here’s my proposal. In any meeting, there surely must be men who notice when someone is being interrupted. So guys, here’s what you do: object to the interruption. Say, “Excuse me, but _____ didn’t finish what she was saying.” I am asking for this because I must, on a daily basis, attend meetings where I am the only woman in the room. Frankly, it is tiring and discouraging to keep trying to get a word in edgewise. Help me out here, guys. It’s the manly thing to do.

17 Responses to “May I Finish?”

  1. Edd Says:

    Vera, just for you, I shall be sure to do as you requested!

  2. Lloyd D Budd Says:

    I am sorry that you were interrupted. I hope it was not me that interupted you.

    I am not good in meetings. I am a small group person.

  3. Erwan Says:

    Hi Vera,

    It’s true that Japanese is different for men and women. This is a problem for a lot of foreigners who learn Japanese with their girlfriend/wife! There is nothing funnier for Japanese people than a tall and strong white man speaking like a schoolgirl.

    I agree with what you are saying about being interrupted, but I tend to think that it’s not purely a sex-related problem. It’s more about each people’s personality.

  4. Phil Says:

    Vera, that was an extremely interesting post. I, for one, can get excited by a topic and interrupt people. Your post has made me more aware of that, and I’ll try to change the behavior. Perhaps you’ve started a trend – more polite men. ;-)

    Cheers,
    Phil

  5. e Says:

    me, too, phil, and i’m a woman. i don’t think of it as interrupting, i think of it as conversation–it’s what i remember all the best conversations to be like, everybody chiming in. but again, they say the art of conversation has been lost and it must be true because i keep finding myself in a silent room, and i guess now it’s interrupting. i don’t hold out much hope for me changing, however, it’s either conversing or shutting up and increasingly i just choose the latter. in my case it has nothing to do with being a woman, though, just a fish out of water.

  6. Andy Smith Says:

    Carry a knife, Vera, sharpen in.


  7. It’s an interesting post and, while you could carry a sharp knife to display at opportune moments, that would risk a Lorena Bobbit comparison that you most likely want to avoid.

    I do believe it’s a male/female issue that reflects the differences in our styles of communication. Awareness of the issue is a good first step towards not letting one’s voice be stifled. But once it happens, what is the best way of handling the situation? You were probably right to simply walk out of the meeting because you were annoyed and peeved and anything you might have said at that moment could have damaged your standing with the group instead of enhancing it.

    In any group, someone emerges as a leader – and it may not be the person who “on paper” appears as though he or she should be running things. A really good leader pays attention to the contributions of everyone in the group. In your case, that person should have redirected the attention of everyone back to you and gently pointed out that you were not finished, thereby inviting you to continue.

    If you can avoid those feelings of annoyance by telling yourself that the people who interrupted you were simply a bit “clueless” and didn’t mean to be rude to you personally, it might be possible for you to redirect the group back to your unresolved and unheard contribution yourself.

  8. susan Says:

    I find this is a constant issue in male dominated environments. Especially technology and engineering where I have been invovled. While I agree with your appeal to the men to be more aware of the conversation.. ( most men truly don’t seen to assess the conversation as it flows..i.e. be aware of the talk overs, interrupts, and rudeness) .. I believe a women (or any person) has to highlight the interruption. We have to raise the issue sometimes directly within the conversation ( example: “Excuse me before (so and so) added his comment.. I had a question or comment that I would discussed. “

  9. susan Says:

    correction on the my last sentence:
    ( example: “Excuse me before (so and so) added his comment.. I had a question or comment that I would like discussed. “

  10. Colin Says:

    You do work w/ Bart. :)

  11. vera Says:

    (Snicker) Yeah, that’s true. People who study conversation styles have to be careful how they define “interruptions” — the kind eSays talks in her comment (“everybody chiming in”) wouldn’t necessarily count as an interruption because the interruptor isn’t changing the topic, or ignoring the previous speaker’s input, etc. So perhaps we can allow for Bart’s style…

  12. bart Says:

    colin, you’re dead, buddy.

    vera, i’m going to make not interrupting people one of my goals for the next week.

  13. bart Says:

    oh, and the funny thing is: I’ve been wondering since yesterday where the heck those migration notes should live.


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  15. [...] Strike one came when I realized, one caffeine-deprived afternoon, that I couldn’t finish a sentence during meetings at Flock, because I’m never quite loud enough to make myself heard over all the guys interrupting me. (I write much louder than I talk.) [...]

  16. Steffen Says:

    Vera, how was the situation the other days? Any updates on that..?

    Cheers,
    Steffen


  17. Updates… yes, updates would be good. In general, *everybody* is interrupting less these days. My writing about it seems to have brought a new level of courtesy to the group!


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